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¤ milky moon ¤ • View topic - Sapokanikan ['Look and Despair']
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Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 11 Aug 2015, 22:31
by Alex Ysoltsev

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 11 Aug 2015, 23:28
by Jordan~
A renderer would be one who renders. To render is also a verb, meaning to depict or represent.

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2015, 14:32
by madpawn
This is a wonderful reading of the song, that does justice to (most) of its references:

http://culturedarm.com/themes-and-refer ... pokanikan/

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2015, 14:54
by Alex Ysoltsev

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 20 Aug 2015, 16:42
by Alex Ysoltsev

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 13 Sep 2015, 23:19
by butterbean
2015 Year of the Ragtimey Encomium

(Hearing her own words about her work is the best.)

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2015, 18:35
by butterbean
Any other guesses before Oct. 23rd?

O Lassie, yawn, doll - go out!
Onassie yon dell, go out
All light yonder go out
O Knights of Yondel, go out
Oh, Asiago - go out!
O, ass, Iago, go out!
Alight, see Ohno, go out
Alike, Siana, go out...

????

:lol:

I feel like this is a pivotal little string of of syllables, it's so frustrating! I guess I'll just walk my cow in the rerounders while I wait for the album.

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2015, 18:55
by claire
Lately I've been hearing "yon call" in there but who the f even knows. I am looking forward to Friday almost as much for finally getting the answer to this question that has plagued us for three years as for being able to hear all the new songs.

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2015, 22:47
by under a CPell
The lyrics are known by now! I don't know how to "spoiler" anything on here, so I won't post it yet...
But I seem to recall someone promising to eat a hat when a certain line in Divers would turn out to be what someone else thought it was? :wink:

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2015, 23:04
by claire
Oh yeah that was me! I saw the video yesterday and started googling "edible hats" though I still swear to any deity you please that she sang it different at that show!

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2015, 23:28
by under a CPell
Make sure to cook it well! :smirk:

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair)

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2015, 01:09
by butterbean
Seriously, Claire, I am so looking forward to that, too! Finding out the lyrics, that is, not hat-eating. :lol:

Oh noes, CPell, is it from liner notes that leaked or was it quoted in some article? I'm not sure if I want to know yet. :)

Edit: aww, crap, I saw it in a tweet! The internets are not safe! But of course it is so perfect. Maaaaaa-aaaybe I eventually (possibly maybe probably not) could have guessed it if I hadn't (apparently) been pronouncing that word wrongly in my head all my life (when encountering it in print).

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair) [Sapokani

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2015, 13:58
by under a CPell
After Joanna saying in interviews we didn't get all the "clues" in this song yet, I just can't help feeling there may be some reference to a female figure hidden in one of Paulus Potter's paintings. He was especially famous for his depictions of cows, sheep and horses in meadows. But I haven't been able to find anything yet.
His most famous painting "The Young Bull" is in The Maurithuis in The Hague. I visited it a few months ago, mainly to look at Fabricius' "The Goldfinch" (I was reading the Donna Tartt book at the time) and there also was a special exhibition about the study of paintings with the use of modern research techniques like macro X-ray fluorescence analysis, which I found very interesting, even more so because of that theme running through Sapokanikan. The example they used was "Saul and David" by Rembrandt.
I might be totally wrong though!

Re: New Song at Treasure Island (Look and Despair) [Sapokani

PostPosted: 06 Nov 2015, 01:55
by Wanbli

Re: Sapokanikan ['Look and Despair']

PostPosted: 08 Dec 2015, 09:22
by Alex Ysoltsev
Some intriguing news about a new case of hidden layers in a painting. This time it's none other than Mona Lisa.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35031997

Re: Sapokanikan ['Look and Despair']

PostPosted: 09 Feb 2016, 09:34
by meadowlark
I watched the video for Sapokonikan all the way through for the first time today (I don't usually watch music videos - and when it first came out I wanted to wait until i'd heard the whole album!). Is Joanna crying at he end? Looks like that to me.

Re: Sapokanikan ['Look and Despair']

PostPosted: 16 Feb 2016, 00:01
by kev23
I always thought it looks like that. I read one interview where she mentions that at that point in the video she was about to walk past the first place she and Andy lived in together, so I could see how she would start feeling emotional, especially considering the subject matter of the song.

Re: Sapokanikan ['Look and Despair']

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:00
by faeriechromatic
Just picked up A Change of Skin, by Carlos Fuentes, which, aside from the resonance in the title with "Only Skin," also addresses the "fall" of indigenous cities to colonial forces, The juxtaposition with & imagination from the Present, reading the clues or their absence in the layers: "Upon the ruins of Cholula are built four hundred churches, their foundations the razed cues, the platforms of the pyramids."