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I have to be careful not to wear this song out but I have listened already about 10 times and I absolutly love it. Ugh so beautiful.

What do you make of the "double hulls bearing double masts"? I thought perhaps it could be that the narrator believes that her destiny is twinned with that of the diver. The diver is dead and she intends to follow him. I thought the reference to something being doubled was relevant as the word "twinned" comes up at the end of the next verse "the twinned and cast of shells".

I feel that Joanna has revisited some regular themes such as gender roles and woman as a symptom of man. Hence, I believe the line reads "A woman is a lie". I believe the divide she sings of is both the divide between the living and the dead and also the divide between man and woman.

I think it's referring to the boat above water and the reflection of the boat, which appears to move under the water. The boat is doubled, one in the dry air and one below the surface.

It's a good thought, but you don't get much reflection in the sea.

I think it's the boat of their relationship. A single boat, because it's one thing, but there's this doubling because a relationship is made of two people. And I wonder if this doubling is related to the twinned oyster shells, suggesting that the pearl within is some "heart" of the relationship distinct from the two apparent halves (i.e., the people).

while you may read alot of depth into the line "double hulls bearing double masts" - this was also ship tyoe first sailing in the 1850s - creating the image of a very large and powerful boat as well.

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar..."

Yes, how can woman be a syptom of man when man himself arises from woman at birth? Woman is the mother of man, no?

or maybe "woman is the origin of man" ?

lol maybe in most religions. but 4 wutevr reasun the church be all "say whattttt" then they were like "GOD BIRTH ADAM, ADAM BIRTH EVE" n it was good itll then but then dey git in trouble and be all "WUT girl be punsihed" n they humilate her by making her giv birth
at least that's what i took from the story

......i like this song

-This is unfathomably beautiful.
-I think it's possible that there's some deliberate ambiguity as to whether she's saying a woman is "a lie" or "alive", a la "bolt like a horse/whore"
- The "I ain't saying that I loved you first/But I loved you best" reminds me of "I don't mean to suggest that I loved you the best" from Leonard Cohen's "Chelsea Hotel No. 2"

In regards to woman being a symptom of man...I don't beleive she means physically. I think it refers to our roles in society....oppression and the treatment of women throughtout history. Women's archetype, image, and attitudes are a symptom of men's domineering roles and without them we would be very different I think. It's possible that she even believes that man is a symptom of woman...who knows..I just know it can't be physical.

SO beautiful. So perfection. Cannot wiat. I wish i were here more to be online, but my computer doesnt work, and I only have facebook on my ipod. If there is more news, please, message me so I I can haves it. Please.Please.

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