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A new series of Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle! I love Stewart Lee! Shit, should I watch it now? I'm tired, what if I don't appreciate it properly? But then I could just watch it again in the morning. But that won't be like watching it for the first time! Damn. Damn it, I'm watching it now!
Edit: And the first voice I hear is Armando Iannucci's. I've died and gone to comedy heaven.
Do you guise like horror movies? I just watched the Audition, a movie by Tashio Miike. SO Great! Rob Zombie reviewed it and said it scared the shit out of him. It starts as a Romcom, but then, holy shit. It's brutal. If you don't have a strong stomach, I really really really really don't recommend it. There are some gruesome scenes. But so far, it's definitely my most favourite horror movie. Japanese horrors are the scariest. Seriously.
Of course, I have one aim, the grotesque. If I am not grotesque I am nothing.
Jesus! The plot summary on Wikipedia turned my stomach. Why would you want to watch that? What pleasure or catharsis can you possibly get from it? I'm no moralist when it comes to art, but I wonder what kind of mind would want to subject itself to this.
You talking about Audition or Visitor Q? One's shlocky torture porn and the other is a statement on society made in an incredibly extreme and disturbing way.
Audition mostly. Visitor Q sounds like it has some merit. I can't really talk without having seen it, but it sounds like it has the desired impact even if it's achieved through heavy-handed grotesquerie. I can't imagine what would possess someone to want to watch Audition, however, or any of its western counterparts like any one of the depressingly successful Saw franchise or a Hostel film. I can think of few things more likely to be corrosive to the human spirit than enacting the most horrific excesses of cruelty in as realistic a manner as possible. That there's a market for this is upsetting and discouraging.
Surely there are better ways of getting thrills than watching someone undergo simulated torture? I don't find it particularly thrilling, personally, just disheartening and a little nauseating. I also don't really get how people can brush the experience off so easily. "Well, those atrocities sure were violent! Want to grab a bite to eat?"
People take horror films for what they are: entertainment. They then shake off and go eat the way you would after a Harry Potter film. I guess it depends how desensitized you are by the media etc etc but most people are able to make the divorce between reality and entertainment, no matter how realistic.
I understand that it's not real, of course. It's more the implication of the fact that there are a lot of people there trying to buy into the idea that it is real. It's not like they break the fourth wall every few minutes to remind everyone that it's just a bit of fun, really. It's so ghoulish. And the fact that it was made. The fact that people want to embrace rather than reject the instincts that make it thrilling. The lack of intellectual sustenance. It all makes me a bit despondent about the human condition. But so does Britain's Got Talent, so I'm basically an ingrate.
Because the thrill isn't necessarily one of 'fun', I said entertainment not fun. The thrill is in the extreme experience, so that's why the film is as realistic as possible, that's why people don't turn around and remind themselves its only a movie, because you're allowing yourself to suspend your disbelief and experience something other, and as the fear that it introduces turns into exhilaration with the knowledge that it isn't real. That is, if you're a fan of horror movies.
I get the appeal of films like the Scream and Halloween series, because there's suspense and surprise there. It's like a game of tig or a rollercoaster in the dark. And they're often pretty funny, in an, "Oh, come on!" sort of way. I just riffed the whole way through Friday the 13th when we went to see the remake at the cinema to make my friend giggle inappropriately. That was fun. But just watching people being mutilated for an hour and a half seems wholly ghoulish and deeply unpleasant. And I still think, "This is a bad thing and no one's learning anything from it. Why have you made this? Why can't you get your thrills without simulating evil?" I don't just hate the horror umbrella genre generally, or violence in films. Some of my favourite films are pretty violent. Most Greek tragedies contain some pretty gruesome stuff, after all (albeit offstage). What I dislike is when it appears to serve no other purpose; when it's just gore for the sake of gruesome spectacle, appealing to the rubbernecking instinct or to some darker part of certain viewers' minds. I don't really buy into the whole, "I wanted to show how cruel/brutal/savage humans can be" argument, because it begs the question, "Well, why, you deranged bastard? Couldn't you have made a nice film about dogs or something? And if you take that as a cue to make some sick dog torture film, I will hunt you down and the description alone of what I'll do to you will make you vomit." I can't suffer even fictional violence against dogs to exist.
Wow, my line of thought has really started getting incoherent. I've been up for twenty hours, don't blame me! Stupid daywalker social events...
I love horror movies with such a passion. Audition has one of the scariest scenes in any movie ever (with the telephone and the bag and Asami). I also reallyreallyreallyreally love 'Suicide Club/Suicide Circle'. ROLLY is a genius, and the scene where he sings is so great. I like horror because I like to pretend I am the antagonist. I really love cheesy 80's horror movies, too. And Silent ones. 'Cabinet of Dr. Caligari' is so so so good. and, of course, 'Nosferatu'. Horror is very exciting. I also have a strong stomach ( I peeled a rotting animal off the sidewalk the other day, the smell didn't even bother me). The more gruesome, the better. I love control, and sometimes I live vicariously through the 'baddie'. 'Scream' and 'Saw' really do nothing for me. 'Ichi The Killer' is another great Tashio Miike. Some Ingmar Bergman movies feel like horror, like 'Wild Strawberries'. I really only watch horror or very black comedies. I have no time for Romcoms or chick flicks. Also, I strongly identify with the perception of 'evil'. My hero in life, my idol is Aleister Crowley, who is known as the posterchild of evil. Most of my dreams are like horror movies, too. I bludgeon, torture, abuse, and terrorise people that I actually know in my dreams.
Of course, I have one aim, the grotesque. If I am not grotesque I am nothing.
I started last night to write a page or two about my feelings on "horror films". It was late and I was very sleepy, so I decided to put it off until today. Now, I find that Alex and I seem to share the same feeling of disgust with the whole idea of brutality and torture as entertainment. Violence can be a necessary part of a good story. I have no problem with that. I just find it disturbing to know that a sizable segment of society enjoys the violence more than the story. What next...a transition from simulation to reality? I can hardly wait!