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There are some excerpts of what I guess is a longer in-print interview from Uncut Magazine, here:
http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/exclusive-j ... ncut-70813

Lots of interesting thoughts, just in those few excerpts. She says that she noticed the diving theme after she was a few songs in, and that the medium being dived through is also important.

I can't wait to see how this theme unfurls in the rest of the album!! Aaaaah, it is so hard to wait. It occurred to me that there's some amount of tension (for me, at least) about whether John Purroy Mitchell fell from the plane, or dove... his last reported words have a little ambiguity, being either poignantly prophetic or being a statement of fact from someone about to take his own life (his belt unfastened)... I don't know, it seems like there might be sort of a question mark there, but maybe it's just me. I wonder if the album will explore anything around falling vs. diving... It reminds me of how Carl Jung described James Joyce and his daughter, Lucia, who was also an artist and in and out of mental hospitals - like two people heading to the bottom of a river, one of them falling and one of them diving.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w2wyn2cknu8yn ... t.pdf?dl=0

nevermind, i found it. enjoy!

houhou thank you
and i don't care about fastness, i'm an old mama, i like my comfort

Such an amazing article, thanks for sharing! I didn't think it was possible to be any more excited for the album than I already was, but whoa- "the 11 songs create an intellectual mystery novel of sorts"- that has to be the coolest concept ever, right!? And Joanna loves it when people dig into the lyrics, confirmed. Maybe after the first few months of soaking it all in we could put together some treasure hunting/pearl diving threads to share our thoughts and insights?

Speaking of insights, I think you're really onto something Butterbean. Well it's resonating with me as well, and it would tie a lot of the threads in the song together. I always found it interesting how objectively the quotes about John Purroy Mitchel were laid out in the lyrics, it's so ambiguous.. I just did some reading about Tamanend and it sounds like he may have taken his own life as well. Bah it's all too much

Does anybody have any special plans for their first listen/s to Divers? I can't decide between walking down to the nearby lake with my best set of headphones and staring at the water for a couple of hours, or just putting the vinyl on and poring over the beautiful packaging. That interview's inspired me to hold out on reading the lyrics straight away, instead just letting the musicality of the words and arrangements flow on by.. Only a month to go!!

I'm just going to sit down with my headphones on, turn off the computer screen and listen the whole way through.

I feel kind of ambiguous about it, it seems people on this forum are generally very hostile towards the fb group and I do get that, I think it's way too much to get into most of the time and a fair portion of the comments borderline ridiculous, but at least it's an arena where people aren't afraid to express their intense feelings and discuss pretty much everything and I guess some fans want a lot of that. I've also had to keep checking it to stay up to date, and find it a bit hilarious and disturbing at the same time... and sometimes quite fun too! But to be honest it would be much better to get this place a bit lively, I'm much more inclined to discuss more or less anything Joanna-related here :>
Gonna read that Uncut Magazine as soon as I get time to properly sit down, sending my thanks to whoever uploaded it!

what's so bad about the facebook group?

milkymoon's running nicely for a decade, than came some newbies fans, especially some french extremely disturbing, violent, and barely stalker lihe "who are you you dumb ppl behind your computer, i KNOW JN and she's just as perfect as a goddess and you have to shut your mouth down for discussing that point" it's a "gentle" resume of what we can read on this FB. I spent 15years among the Björk's hardcore fan saying sutff like "i could die for her" i'm not interesting in that kind of creepiness anymore. I don't care to have less info, those ppl are sick and make me really uncomfortable.
It's not about being a newbie it's about being enthusiast not manic...
I had a quite harsh argue with a french girl, this woman is really sick and mostly dangerous, yes dangerous, i'm afraid for Joanna to know this gal around in live concert...

Wow. I'm really really sad and sorry you guys hate the fb group so much.

I am so sorry about your experience milkisobel. I am pretty sure I know who you are talking about and blocked her a long time ago.

I don't really know what to do to help all of this. I don't think I can just start deleting comments I personally think are "crazy." I thought that we shouldn't share officially released material on the page and have tried to keep that on the down low but I am willing to admit when I am wrong.

I never deleted your post Bev, it's still there if you scroll down.

I am open to any suggestions on improvement. Please let me know. Whenever you have a group of over a thousand people there's bound to be some issues. I have been on milky moon for a long time and wish this didn't hurt me so bad to read all of this.

i guess my problem with it is that unlike a message board, you can't separate posts based on topic... most band message boards, everyone is restless waiting for the album to come out and make a bunch of threads about "while we're waiting... what other music does everyone like?" or "i made joanna art" or "who's your favorite character from a joanna song?". on a message board, it's not a problem because it's in a separate thread from the news thread, so you don't have to read through it all if you don't want to

i'm one of the people who is honestly subscribed to the facebook specifically for news, and i get notifications constantly of new things posted on the page that i just don't care about. it drives me bonkers.

i don't think there's anything you can do to improve it, it's just how the layout of facebook is. i wouldn't take it personally... most of your members seem perfectly happy to be on there discussing joanna related things, i think that's what the page is for. they seem like crazy fanatics to people like me, but there's nothing wrong with it how it is. keep it that way, if that's the purpose of the page! the problem isn't the group, the problem is that you just have a bunch of lurkers like myself, who have signed up just for news, who are frustrated and feel entitled to have it their way.

if i could just get my updates here, i would, i just don't want to miss anything. "leaving the city" was out for nearly a day before i notice it popped up on milkymoon. so, until i have the damn album/ticket for a show in my city, i'ma be lurking your page you don't have to accommodate everyone though, it's not your job. i say just do what's in the best interest of your page, and ignore anyone like me who is using you for a quicky

oh yes Jessie please, Bev and Travy really well sum up the pb, it's nothing regarding you or the moderating of this FB page, alas, as Bev said, it depends on ppl, and there is just two different energies there, one of the old tadpoles we are, more like lazy toads now and the newbies of FB. Also FB page are messy exactly as Travy saif, but it's a FB page pb, not yours ! it's nice you run this page for different people, and even if i quit, some may have their place

I've been a longtime lurker/sparse poster of this group since its previous incarnation on LiveJournal (anyone remember the milkeyed_mender community?). I became more active on the FB group recently, but I have my regrets about doing so. I'd love for milkymoon to come alive again.

The photographer Alexandra Kinga Fekete has released some gorgeous new photos of Newsom. http://www.alexandrakingafekete.com/cat ... -portraits

Thank you guys!

The new Alexandra Kinga Fekete pictures are so beautiful. I don't see the one of her laying in the water though, it must have been taken down.

Jessie! It's not your fault! I reiterate what everybody above said; there's just a very vocal subsect of people in the group who drive me absolutely nuts. I still check it every day for news and stuff and it's not like I don't post in it myself.

Thank you claire.

I totally understand not wanting to read all the chatter.

< is sorry for being an asshole re: Facebook

Being the largest country in the world, FB is bound to be well...too big.

you do a tremendous job as a mod.

Thanks