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Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2015, 22:13
by under a CPell
Final Set 11 - Pairings 61 to 65
FIRST DIVISION
Pairing A-61 - Go Long
Pairing A-62 - Have One On Me
Pairing A-63 - Kingfisher
Pairing A-64 - Only Skin
Pairing A-65 - Cosmia

SECOND DIVISION
Pairing B-61 - Peach, Plum, Pear
Pairing B-62 - Waltz Of The 101st Lightborne
Pairing B-63 - Leaving The City
Pairing B-64 - Sadie || Good Intentions Paving Co. tie
Pairing B-65 - Anecdotes

THIRD DIVISION
Pairing C-61 - Goose Eggs || En Gallop! tie
Pairing C-62 - Colleen || Soft As Chalk tie
Pairing C-63 - Autumn
Pairing C-64 - Swansea || Easy tie
Pairing C-65 - Time, As A Symptom

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2015, 23:41
by Steve
Thank you for your votes, under a CPell.

There are now a little over 3 days left to vote in these, the final 15 pairings of the 2015 JNST.

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 29 Dec 2015, 00:06
by Wanbli
Final Set 11 - Pairings 61 to 65
FIRST DIVISION
Pairing A-61 - Go Long
Pairing A-62 - Sawdust & Diamonds
Pairing A-63 - Monkey & Bear
Pairing A-64 - Emily
Pairing A-65 - Cosmia

SECOND DIVISION
Pairing B-61 - Peach, Plum, Pear
Pairing B-62 - A Pin-Light Bent
Pairing B-63 - On A Good Day
Pairing B-64 - Good Intentions Paving Co.
Pairing B-65 - Anecdotes

THIRD DIVISION
Pairing C-61 - Goose Eggs
Pairing C-62 - Colleen
Pairing C-63 - Autumn
Pairing C-64 - Swansea
Pairing C-65 - Time, As A Symptom

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 29 Dec 2015, 21:03
by Headless_Caboose
Final Set 11 - Pairings 61 to 65
FIRST DIVISION
Pairing A-61 - Baby Birch
Pairing A-62 - Sawdust & Diamonds
Pairing A-63 - Monkey & Bear
Pairing A-64 - Only Skin
Pairing A-65 - Cosmia

SECOND DIVISION
Pairing B-61 - '81
Pairing B-62 - Waltz Of The 101st Lightborne
Pairing B-63 - On A Good Day
Pairing B-64 - Sadie
Pairing B-65 - Anecdotes

THIRD DIVISION
Pairing C-61 - Goose Eggs
Pairing C-62 - Colleen
Pairing C-63 - Autumn
Pairing C-64 - Easy
Pairing C-65 - Clam, Crab, Cockle, Cowrie

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 29 Dec 2015, 22:25
by Steve
Thank you for your votes, Wanbli and Headless_Caboose.

There are now just two days and a few hours left to vote in this final set of pairings of the 2015 Tournament.

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 30 Dec 2015, 03:03
by kev23
Final Set 11 - Pairings 61 to 65
FIRST DIVISION
Pairing A-61 - Baby Birch
Pairing A-62 - Sawdust & Diamonds
Pairing A-63 - Monkey & Bear
Pairing A-64 - Emily
Pairing A-65 - In California

SECOND DIVISION
Pairing B-61 - '81
Pairing B-62 - Waltz Of The 101st Lightborne
Pairing B-63 - Leaving The City
Pairing B-64 - Sadie
Pairing B-65 - Anecdotes

THIRD DIVISION
Pairing C-61 - Goose Eggs
Pairing C-62 - Colleen
Pairing C-63 - Ribbon Bows
Pairing C-64 - Swansea
Pairing C-65 - Time, As A Symptom

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:29
by solfatara
Final Set 11 - Pairings 61 to 65
FIRST DIVISION
Pairing A-61 - Go Long
Pairing A-62 - Sawdust & Diamonds || Have One On Me (tie)
Pairing A-63 - Kingfisher
Pairing A-64 - Only Skin
Pairing A-65 - In California

SECOND DIVISION
Pairing B-61 - '81 || Peach, Plum, Pear (tie)
Pairing B-62 - Waltz Of The 101st Lightborne
Pairing B-63 - Leaving The City
Pairing B-64 - Good Intentions Paving Co.
Pairing B-65 - Anecdotes || You Will Not Take My Heart Alive (tie)

THIRD DIVISION
Pairing C-61 - Goose Eggs
Pairing C-62 - Soft As Chalk
Pairing C-63 - Ribbon Bows
Pairing C-64 - Easy
Pairing C-65 - Time, As A Symptom

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 31 Dec 2015, 20:43
by Steve
Thank you to Kev23 and solfatara for your votes.

Having checked my map, I will be prepared to believe that the entire MM community has moved to the Howland, Baker & Jarvis Islands, in order to extend 2015 (and hence the voting window) for a total of 12 hours beyond midnight here in the UK. So if anyone has not yet voted in this final set of pairings, please do so within the next 15¼ hours.

I aim to tally the scores and post the final results as soon after noon on 1 January UK time as possible.

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 31 Dec 2015, 21:26
by Julia
Final Set 11 - Pairings 61 to 65
FIRST DIVISION
Pairing A-61 - Baby Birch
Pairing A-62 - Sawdust & Diamonds
Pairing A-63 - Monkey & Bear
Pairing A-64 - Only Skin / Emily (tie)
Pairing A-65 - In California

SECOND DIVISION
Pairing B-61 - Peach, Plum, Pear
Pairing B-62 - Waltz Of The 101st Lightborne
Pairing B-63 - Leaving The City
Pairing B-64 - Good Intentions Paving Co.
Pairing B-65 - Anecdotes

THIRD DIVISION
Pairing C-61 - Goose Eggs
Pairing C-62 - Colleen
Pairing C-63 - Ribbon Bows
Pairing C-64 - Easy
Pairing C-65 - Time, As A Symptom

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 31 Dec 2015, 22:24
by Steve
Thank you for your votes, Julia

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 02 Jan 2016, 01:19
by Steve

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 02 Jan 2016, 19:27
by Steve

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 03 Jan 2016, 23:20
by solfatara
Wow, Steve, thanks for this thorough summing up and of course for running the tournament again this year! It was interesting to see how the new album fit into everything - I'm not sure if I'm surprised or not that Sapokanikan did best out of the new songs...
I am however a little bit surprised that Emily is in 2nd place, I don't exactly know why, haha...

Just to see how the list differs from my personal tastes, here's my top 10 (of today I guess haha) however the top 8 at least I can't really rank in any particular and persistent order

In California
Only Skin
Divers
Have One On Me
Sapokanikan
Ribbon Bows
Sawdust & Diamonds
Go Long
No Provenance
Anecdotes

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 04 Jan 2016, 21:18
by Steve
Thank you for your kind comments, solfatara. I hope you enjoyed taking part in and following the tournament as much as I did.

I was interested to run at your personal top ten. I'm sure if I did one, it would be liable to change the very next time I thought about it. That said, my top two are pretty much set in stone for the moment, so here's my current opinion:
1) Only Skin
2) En Gallop
3/4) Divers, Baby Birch
5-11) Kingfisher, Go Long, Emily, Sawdust & Diamonds, In California, Cosmia (the ep version), Flying A Kite
12-22) Soft As Chalk, Goose Eggs (these two have a similar feel, for me), Erin, Bridges & Balloons, Have One On Me, Anecdotes, Waltz of the 101st Lightborne, Sadie, What We Have Known, This Side of the Blue, Ribbon Bows...

Also, I couldn't stop at 10, and I still haven't mentioned Sapokanikan, Pin Light, Clam Crab, The Fray, No Style, The Man Who Ran The Town, and many others.

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 05 Jan 2016, 00:12
by nightjar_
I would also like to take a moment to thank you for (and be genuinely amazed with) the thorough analysis provided. You must truly enjoy Joanna Newsom... and statistics! :notworthy:

I am unable to make a true "top" 10 of JN songs, but I'd like to take this opportunity to share what my (current) favorites are, in reverse chronological order:
Time, As a Symptom
A Pin-Light Bent
Anecdotes
Kingfisher
Go Long
In California
Baby Birch
Only Skin
Sawdust & Diamonds
Clam, Crab, Cockle, Cowrie (Ys Street Band version)

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 05 Jan 2016, 15:28
by Steve
Hello again nightjar_, and thank you, too, for your kind comments.

Yes I do :)

I looked at your list, and thought that, with the exception of Time (not that I dislike it, but it hasn't yet grabbed me as firmly as many), that it could be my own list. And then I looked again at solfatara's, and again had exactly the same impression, except I wouldn't include No Provenance. I would, however, urge you (now the JNST is over for another season!) to give En Gallop another listen! It can get lost among the other MEM songs, but perhaps try listening to it in isolation, and then see if it doesn't deserve a place in anyone's favourites. Whether it does or not, though, I think it's great that we can enjoy Joanna's music, perhaps all in slightly different ways, and that it touches us all deeply.

Soon I intend to put up a bit more analysis - a summary of JNST1-5, and an attempt to find - if you'll excuse the slightly sexist terminology - our own version of 'Basildon Man' - the 'typical' voter.

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:08
by Jordan~
I'm surprised that Sapokanikan did best from Divers! Maybe it's because it was the first song we had in its entirety, but I sort of got fed up of it (relatively speaking) quickest. Also surprising in general that the old numbers continue to perform so well - would have thought there'd be three or four, maybe even five or six, Divers songs in the top ten!

Do you have the data available to tell us all what our top 10s are, as we voted for them?

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 06 Jan 2016, 01:34
by Steve
Hi Jordan~
I wanted to say something similar to you about Sapokanikan, but could not find a way to express it without suggesting that I am in any way 'fed up' with that song. But I do find myself overlooking it, when listening to Divers, and mentally previewing what's coming next.
I think I should be able to construct some individual top 10s from the votes cast: the information isn't perfect (for instance - if you vote for song A ahead of song B, but B gets the majority verdict, then A does not appear up against the other more popular ones in the next round), but I will see what I can do over the next few days.

Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 06 Jan 2016, 02:36
by Steve
In the meantime, though, here is a list of every song together with its positions in each of the five JNSTs to date. The songs are listed in an order which averages their relative position within the entry for each year, but (in a departure from the similar lists I've posted in previous years) this average is weighted to give more emphasis on more recent years, so that the 2015 positions are weighted at 1, those from 2014 are weighted at 1/2, 2013 are at 1/3, 2012 at 1/4, and 2011 at 1/5. Where this results in a tie, songs are shown without a blank line separating them. (It is appreciated that this method still does not address fully the downgrading of songs which had previously appeared in little-known or poorer quality versions, but it is an improvement on a simple average, and the detrimental effect will decrease as the early appearances attract lower and lower weightings).

The song titles are colour coded to indicate the official album on which the song can be found: I've kept this simple by classing everything not on one of the main four albums as 'miscellaneous':
MEM
Ys
HOOM
Divers
miscellaneous


2015 Title

0001 Only Skin

0002 Emily

0003 In California

0005 Have One On Me

0006 Cosmia

0011 Sawdust & Diamonds

0007 Go Long

0004 Sapokanikan

0008 Baby Birch

0009 Monkey & Bear

0010 Kingfisher

0014 Sadie

0016 Waltz Of The 101st Lightborne

0015 Good Intentions Paving Company

0018 You Will Not Take My Heart Alive

0024 Easy

0020 A Pin-Light Bent

0030 Swansea

0028 Colleen

0025 Soft As Chalk

0017 Peach, Plum, Pear

0023 Time, As A Symptom

0032 Clam Crab Cockle Cowrie

0021 On A Good Day

0013 Divers

0022 ’81

0027 Goose Eggs

0031 "En Gallop" (aka En Gallop!)

0035 Bridges And Balloons

0019 Leaving The City

0026 Autumn

0036 Does Not Suffice

0038 No Provenance

0037 Esme

0029 Ribbon Bows

0045 Sprout And The Bean

0039 Occident

0040 Ca’ The Yowes To The Knowes

0049 You And Me, Bess

0052 Flying A Kite

0050 The Book Of Right-On

0033 Yarn And Glue

0047 What We Have Known

0012 Anecdotes

0043 Inflammatory Writ

0046 Jackrabbits

0042 The Fray

0056 Erin

0059 This Side Of The Blue

0041 Three Little Babes

0054 The Things I Say

0057 Cassiopeia

0051 The North Star Grassman And The Ravens

0044 Instrumental 1999

0055 The Man Who Ran The Town [HS/JN]

0058 Little Wing

0061 Another Day [RH/JN]

0060 Man’s Road

0064 If I Were [VB]

0048 Prepared Harp Improv.

=065 Tom Bombadil

0073 Ring The Living Bell [JN/S/WW]

0081 Rock Bottom Riser [S]

0062 Kindness Be Conceived [TG]

0063 Against The Sky [VB]

0069 Our Anniversary [S]

0070 Spooks [JG, GC, DG, JN]

0071 Do You Know Who You Are? [GS]

=065 Angel

0078 Sycamore [BC]

0074 Under The Paving Stones, The Beach! [JG, CG, CD, JN]

0034 Same Old Man

0053 We Are The Doctor [P]

0076 Good Heart, Money And Rain [MB]

0080 The Honey, The Power, The Light [GS]

0090 River Guard [BC]

0072 You & Me [KB]

0067 Picture [RP/JN]

0068 No Style [P]

0084 Sympathy [GS]

0083 Bring Me Down [GS]

0085 Lifetime [RF/LM]

0086 Exit (aka Orderly Manor) [P]

0087 Amour Fou [V]

0089 Never Come Home [P]

0077 Shame [DB/V/JN+friends]

0079 Amerilie [V]

0088 Through The Trees [RF/LM]

=091 If You Can Afford It [P]

=091 Eleven Continents [RF/LM]

0075 One Horse [P]

=091 Mountain [GS]

=097 Oh Canada [P]

=091 Another Disaster [P]

=097 Don't Make Things [P]

=097 Intermission (aka I The Province) [P]

=091 Swift Nude [P]

=091 untitled (from One Piece From The Middle) [P]

=097 Secret [P]

0082 Colorchains Of Inner Space [NC]

=097 The Wheel [BC]

=106 About Me [P]

=106 I'm Already Gone (aka Already Gone) [P]

=106 Mountain & Bear [KB]

=097 Wake Up Instead [P]

=097 The Muppet Show Theme [M]

=097 Roots [DB/V/JN/E/SN]

=106 Orange Peter [P]

=106 Life's A Happy Song Finale [M]

=106 Dreams [DB/JN/V]

=106 The Conversation [P]

=106 Hear Me Marching [P]

=124 Franks Vs Frank [NC]

=115 Let Go [P]

=097 Pow Strikes Pow Implosion [NC]

=115 Little Picture Of You [KB]

=115 This Is Just To Say

=106 R.U. In [P]

=115 Ras Trent [LI]

=115 The Orchard [PG/JN/TF]

=124 Hawk Feeds You To Feed Itself [NC]

=124 Ill Pearls [NC]

=115 France [PG/JN/TF]
=115 The French Lieutenant Dreams [JN/TF]

=115 Setting The Bushes On Fire [NC]

=115 7 Minutes In Heaven [MOB/JN]

=124 Nuflesh, Old Thirst [NC]
=124 Rice Precipitation [NC]

=124 Get Wolf Boy And Get In Context [NC]
=124 Nonrum Nonproblem [NC]

=124 We Are A Crowd [LI]

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Re: Joanna Newsom Song Tournament V (2015)

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2016, 00:01
by Steve